Thursday, June 23, 2005

More Stupid Remarks, More Mock Outrage

Democrats are upset at remarks made by Karl Rove.

Rove, Bush's chief political adviser, said in a speech Wednesday that "liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers." Conservatives, he told the New York state Conservative Party just a few miles north of Ground Zero, "saw the savagery of 9/11 and the attacks and prepared for war."

Not surprisingly, Democrats are acting with the same kind of mock outrage that the right cast at Dick Durbin’s remarks last week. Apparently, our leaders are very easily offended these day. And, apparently, saying something stupid is now grounds for opponents to call for your resignation.

All that aside, Rove is pretty much lying. Oh, there were a few fringe liberals such as the editors of The Progressive that wanted to send in UN troops to arrest Osama Bin Laden but, give me a break, those are pretty out-there liberals. All but one elected Democrat in congress voted for the military action in Afghanistan. For goodness sake, even FRANCE supported military action.

As far as spin goes, Rove’s comments are twirling out towards Pluto. But the Democrats quick and harsh reaction does tell you the party is pretty self-conscious about its “weak on defense” image. No rational American would believe Rove’s remarks. Democrats should have just let it pass and it would have gotten no publicity.


At 3:04 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

My partisan leanings dictate my disagreement, for certain, but comparing the Durbin outrage to the Rove outrage isn't that straightforward when you consider the purpose of the "offending" statements. Durbin used poor word choice in an attempt to say that the U.S. should not engage in torture especially when it has a history of condemning others for the same practices. Rove used carefully selected word choice to say that anyone who disagrees with the president secretly wishes for harm to befall soldiers fighting abroad. His indictment was sweeping - so much so that, by his standard, even the parents of those soldiers, if they happen to be Democrats, secretly wish their children dead. His purpose? To continue deepening the divide in the country. He's not trying to to do this to hurt those he's attacking. He's not trying to do it to help those who will agree with him. He's trying to do this to benefit the third party of Americans who cynically don't care if troops live or die, don't care if we torture or don't torture, who only care about protecting their power and interests no matter what long-term harm it does (remember his partner, W, who said he didn't care what history thought of him because he'll be dead by then). Those who oppose the president are useful (and compliant and all too often inviting) targets. Those who support the president are useful tools who dutifully parrot this rhetoric no matter how much harm it does. For Rove and the group he represents, all of us are a means to an end that has nothing to do with anyone's well-being but a select few.

At 3:24 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

karl rove is undermining the troops and the war on terror. by dividing the country with his 9-11 politicizing he is showing the terrorists that the country is divided and weaker. that puts our troops at risk.

kerl rove is a traitor and apologies wouldnt be enough.

At 4:31 PM, Blogger AubreyJ said...

Karl Rove is a smart man and speaks the truth more than he should at times. This truly sounds like one of those times yet I haven’t read all of what he had to say so what do I know. But as far as firing the man … COME ON… It’s not going to happen. He was not voted in by anyone. Only GW can fire him and that sure isn’t going to happen… NEVER!!!!!!!!

At 4:38 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rove speaks the truth and the Libs just can't handle it! They need to take a good look at where there leaders are leading this party. Durbin is just one in a line of many who are nothing less than traitors for there rantings about America. Dean spews venom about the President and our leaders on a daily basis. They hurt us all. They give us Americans a bad name and fuel the fires of hate against us.

At 4:44 PM, Blogger Tom - doubts and all said...

The question is not whether Dick Durbin or Karl Rove can support their comments.

The question is can partisans in our democracy disagree without resorting to discourse aimed at inpugning each others character?

Everyone knows Rove sits at the right hand of the President —the President of all the people— he should not be attacking his fellow citizens for anything, ever.

At 5:01 PM, Anonymous dc resident said...

I am a liberal who witnessed 9/11 killings up close. When I read Rove's remarks I felt like I was slapped across the face. It made me want to find that fat piece of s*&%t and pound his larda$$ chickenhawk ugly face. Conservatives have responded to 9/11 by letting the guy who did it - Osama bin Laden -- have a free ride while their dear leader was fixing intel so he could justify an invasion of Iraq. Now we have created a training zone in Iraq for terrorists to try live fire exercises on our troops. And the Republicans have bungled this so badly that we are on our way to a completely hollow military. Nice going, Rove.

At 1:35 AM, Anonymous ex-GOP Kansan said...

As a disgusted ex-republican, I'm forced to agree DC Resident. Roves comments were planned and carefully scripted, as was Scott McClellan’s White House response. This is a staged controversy. The midterm elections are coming up, and Bush’s ratings are down, and Rove’s comments were the beginnings of yet another disgusting partisan republican media frenzy designed to distract people from the administrations failures while generating lots of press for unfounded accusations against democrats and liberals.
The Bush administration has left us with nothing but deficits, expanded government, and foreign policy failure. Again and again they have put politics ahead of American safety. Iraq was a diversion to whip up flag waving patriotism and help re-elect Bush while the real culprits of 9/11 go free. Cowards and traitors? - Lets start with virtually every chickenhawk member of Bush’s staff, the idiots who destroyed America’s reputation for fair play (Abu Ghraib), destroyed America’s reputation for integrity (the Iraqi intelligence manipulation), and have done nothing since 9/11 except exhaust our military (4 rotations for national guardsmen?!?), and undermine our soldiers in the field (to few troops, inadequate armor, no occupation plan). Then they dare wrap themselves in the flag and accuse anyone who questions them of being soft on terror and a traitor. Karl Rove is a very smart man – but sadly, the truth is not something he cares about. He and this administration have consistently placed political power and insider payoffs above the safety and long-term well being of this country. They are the ones placing the future of America in jeopardy.

The loves of Karl Rove: Party; Payoffs; America. In that order.


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