Thursday, May 19, 2005

Trump's Not-so-Grand Vision for WTC Site

Donald Trump doesn’t like the design for the new Freedom Tower which New York City plans to build on the World Trade Center site. His solution? Rebuild the WTC towers almost exactly as they were. He even presented a model to show off his vision. But an old photo of the World Trade Center would have worked just as well.

Trump has as much right as the next billionaire to impose himself on the WTC rebuilding issue. But rebuilding nearly exact replicas? No offense, the old WTC Towers were not exactly great works of architectural design. In fact, critics often said they looked like the boxes the Empire State Building and the Chrysler Building came in. What New York builds on the site should be grand, eloquent and defiant. The idea is to move forward, not back.

Come on, Trump. Contestants on your show could have done better with 24-hours and a box of Legos.

UPDATE: Maybe I spoke too quickly. Read some more thoughts.

87 Comments:

At 12:09 PM, Anonymous Igor said...

I disagee. I've been saying the same thing since the towers came down. As a NYer, I feel we need to rebuild, and show terrorists all over the world that NY & The US can and will not be succeptible to change.

 
At 12:19 PM, Blogger Scott said...

I couldn't disagree more with the author, and agree more with Igor.

The towers MUST be rebuilt the same. 50 years from now it will feel much more satisfying to see the same thing. I know I am glad they rebuilt the White House after the War of 1812, and didn't make it into "Freedom Park".

 
At 12:20 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not a Trump fan, but he is right! The towers should not be replaced. They should be rebuilt. Bigger and stronger.

 
At 12:20 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Totally agree! The original WTC were cool buildings. Why not simply replace them with a better version to honor those who perished on 911 and to show those who did the deed that in reality they did nothing. We will continue to thrive in the future.

 
At 12:21 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

He's vain, uncouth, overbearing, and right.

 
At 12:22 PM, Anonymous DesBrosses said...

Igor is right, I was there, and I've been saying the same thing too. The most eloquent response we could make to the attack on the Twin Towers is to put them right back where they were, with a hearty "F YOU" to the sickos who thought they could defeat America. No matter how pretty it is, a new and different tower would basically be the Bin Laden Monument. I don't want it.

This is an example where Trump, for all his faults, is doing the right thing, and I hope he gets enough support to make it happen.

 
At 12:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Glad to see all us New Yorkers agree

 
At 12:23 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

LIGHTEN UP!!

The Donald proposal is not serious, it's only a media ploy to get his name out and pump up Apprentice ratings.

The harsh reality is that the economics to rebuild the towers aren't there. There is absoultely no demand
for the millions of sq. ft. they would bring back to the downtown market.

As a New Yorker, I feel that first consideration should be to the victim's family; a proper memorial, park etc. is appropriate along with a modest but elegant commercial building.

 
At 12:24 PM, Anonymous Chris Nielsen said...

I must disagree. The Freedom Tower represents nothing but defeat, whereas a rebuilt WTC, albeit stronger, represents everything. I'm not a big fan of Donald Trump, but if it takes his media power to draw attention to the makenynyagain.com effort, I'm all for it.

 
At 12:25 PM, Anonymous baggs said...

I agree with igor, don't lket a buch of artsy architects design it, lets hear from the people

 
At 12:25 PM, Anonymous Lee Nelson said...

I was so disappointed when the Freedom Tower was unveiled. I kept thinking, the best way to fight this war is to just keep rebuilding the same tower....thinking, you can knock it down again and we'll rebuild it again. Design Likes and Dislikes aside, it is absolutely Pathetic that George Pataki hasn't made this a number one priority. How many years ago were the buildings knocked down? We should be planning the grand opening celebration for Sept '07. At this rate it might take 15 years to get built. Disgusting.

 
At 12:26 PM, Anonymous Russell said...

When the towers first went down I thought that we ought to put them back to be just as they were before. But now, I'm not so sure. We do need to be looking towards the future, we do need to have taken something away from the tragity.

Also, I think building the replacement buildings to be the new tallest buildings in the world is a good idea, that the currently planned memorial is so short is insulting.

 
At 12:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So lets say you live in a big house and you have a big family, you come home one day to find a criminal blew your home up and all your loved ones perished. Would you rebuild the house to be exactly the same? Would the memories be creepy seeing the building looking exactly the same again? I don't know anyone personally that died in the attacks, but I wonder what survivors and other relatives feel. We should ask them what they think.

 
At 12:28 PM, Blogger Dave212 said...

Does Alan Stewart Carl live in Idaho or something? The towers were grand and majestic, they stood out from all corners of the city and across the river. They were an acquired taste and became part of the fabric of the city.

Trump is 100% right, and I don't care if he's an ego-maniacal manipulator with delusions of grandeur, we need someone with clout to get behind this.

If we build that hollow shell of a freedom tower skeleton, the TERRORISTS WIN! By rebuilding the towers as they were, but stronger, safer, and that extra story taller, we say to them - you can push us down, but we'll always get up and become stronger!!!

 
At 12:28 PM, Anonymous j allen said...

Quoting the author, "not exactly great works of architectural design" - this isn't really the point, is it?

This is not a question of how pretty a building should look. I suspect the crystal spire design on the table now is more likely to be some flamboyant architects' view of the situation in order to make a statement about how visionary they are.

I agree with Trump.

 
At 12:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The families of victims of flight 93 have not been asking that the airline redesign the plane they died in.

The families of those that died in the Pentagon didn't hold out for a park where that side of the building was blown up.

Get real. The only way to show the world our strength is to rebuild as before, but with significant strengthening of the structure.

 
At 12:36 PM, Blogger Alan Stewart Carl said...

For the record, I live in Washington, DC and used to live in NYC but am a native Texan.

Also for the record, I'm no fan of the Freedom Tower design. I just think we make an even bigger statement to the terrorists if we build something bigger and better than the originals. We can't undo what was done. Let the images from the past stay in the past. Let the future hold something even mightier.

But that's just my opinion. I agree that this a decision to be made by New Yorkers.

 
At 12:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hell, I think we should employ not only the phoenix mythology and raise the original towers from the ashes again, but hybrid it with the hydra mythology (cut off its serpent head and two grew back) and build two twins (4 towers) in their place. And if the ists take'em down, build 4 twins (8), then 8 twins (16), etc. Sooner or later, there will be more twins than the ists can take out and we'll be safe!

 
At 12:38 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Donald is Right! How many times have we seen photos, movies etc with the twin towers- reminding all of "before and after" 9/11? These monuments will live on.

 
At 12:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You people are living in the past. Who cares about the towers and what replaces them? Maybe just New Yorkers. It been 3 years and time to move on. America will do what it always does, take a bad situation, turn it around, and make a profit. With the freedom tower the city can make money from tourism whereas rebuilding the towers is just plain wasteful. A portion of the money can go to the victims families while the rest into the NYC economy.

Terrorists really dont give two shits about what we do or dont build on the same plot of land. Quit being so melodramatic people, I swear you all watch too many hollywood movies.

 
At 12:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I do not for the life of me why no one said this sooner. I spent much time
in the Twin Towers. My grandfather signed a pre-construction lease for office space in the WTC and passed away before construction was complete. Those towers meant & mean a lot to me and my family. It is right to re-build
the exact same damn thing in defiance.
As far as getting people to rent the space, get creative and put entertainment, shopping and food every 20 floors or so. TRUMP is right. No 2 ways about it. Thank you Mr Trump, NY just stepped back in the ring.

 
At 12:44 PM, Blogger Frank said...

Building the Freedom Towers is the equivalent of building a giant tombstone on the site. The inscription would read "Terrorism can defeat the spirit of freedom." We Americans need a resurrection so that we can look at the N.Y. City skyline and cheer "The spirit of freedom will never be defeated!"

 
At 12:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The original towers were practical in their design and function. Sure, they weren't decked with pretty glass and spires, but you got the most bang for your buck. The square design provided for the most square footage of office space possible. Sometimes the simplest design is the most effective.

Besides, the WTO is something of a "Borg" operation, so why not keep the towers looking like such?

I think Trump is correct.

The only thing I think that should be changed is to alternate the positioning of the buildings, plus join the two together at the base with a massive complex rather than a plaza in the middle.

The proponents of the freedom tower claim it was a democratic process. I didn't vote on it, did you?

 
At 12:55 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I want my twins back!
--Joe, working in Jersey City, Exchange Place.

 
At 12:56 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I like Trump's idea!

 
At 12:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Trump is so right.

The bleating orgy of emotional venting over a memorial just shows our people have weakened over time and are no longer the stern, sturdy folk who won WWII.

Stuff it and rebuild the thing. To hell with everyone's "feelings." Let's show the enemy they lose.

 
At 12:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a NYer, I would have to say Trump's bombastic and architecturally tough-to-defend stance to rebuild the twin towers is probably the best solution so far, as the opposite yet equally resonable total memorial park is... NY is about standing tough and being ostentatious. Also, for many of us in New York, they were very special buildings. I would say it is a New York issue now, considering the rest of the country uses 9/11 for bumber stickers ... not literally spesking. CWM bklyn

 
At 12:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

After WWII, the battleships that were rebuilt became symbols for America's resolve. The Arizona is a symbol for those who died and America's vulnerability. If we want to honor the dead and our vulnerability go with the new design. But if we want to show the world our resolve to be free, build safer copies of the old design. Personally if I was a dead victim, I'd want the old buildings rebuilt as defiance rather than a towering headstone. A simple plaque on the side of each building honoring the dead would be all I would want.

 
At 12:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I,m not a New Yorker, but I have to say, the "freedom tower" design looks like a big, old syringe to me. Not only that, but the name is just too corny, " freedom fries, freedom tower... give me a break already!
I think the twin towers looked great. Much better than the proposed design.
I also don't think we necessarily have to put up a bigger, taller more grandiose building. How about something beautiful? Who the hell wants to work on the 150th floor of anything? Not me.

 
At 1:01 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So the argument is... if we rebuild the towers exaclty like they were, the terrorists will sit back and say "We have failed, they rebilt the towers."
But if we build a brand new building (one that generates part of its own electriciy reducing OIL dependency) then the terrorists will sit back and say "Yay, we have won! the Stupid Americans cant rebuild the old buildings!"
What the terrorists are probably saying is "Donald Trump is a rich greedy American..."

 
At 1:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I,m not a New Yorker, but I have to say, the "freedom tower" design looks like a big, old syringe to me. Not only that, but the name is just too corny, " freedom fries, freedom tower... give me a break already!
I think the twin towers looked great. Much better than the proposed design.
I also don't think we necessarily have to put up a bigger, taller more grandiose building. How about something beautiful? Who the hell wants to work on the 150th floor of anything? Not me.

 
At 1:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Trumps finally on board, standing up for the public, several people from my town on LI were lost that day. In addition my best friend, my neighbors, etc... saw first hand people jump to certain death that day. We must build a safer twin tower design as Trump has proposed,this is the best way to help rememeber the towers the way they were before the attacks. It's about healing ny, the skyline, as well as the loss of life as best as that can be healed.

 
At 1:06 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

WTC rebuild to prior specs has always been a strong, symbolic way to go. The one floor additions are analogous to lighting single candles or the flame at JFK's Arlington plot. Understatement, especially juxtaposed with (what was and may be) grandeur, is usually most meaningful.

 
At 1:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The Donald" is right. Bigger and better and certainly more profitable.

Alex

 
At 1:10 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

build the twin towers and build them at least to the height of the tallest building in the world. America.

 
At 1:10 PM, Blogger Eric said...

I say rebuild the towers - to the same, exact design and add one floor to each. Not only will we not be intimidated, we will not be allow our progress to be hindered.

 
At 1:10 PM, Blogger Eric said...

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At 1:12 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I see a lot of people agree with Trump. Too bad the "powers that Be" don't care what people think. The word Freedom has really been getting on my nerves. The Freedom Tower idea just shows the world how gay the US can be.

 
At 1:12 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's face it. Trump is right, the "Freedom Park" looks like his hair! Bring back those stately buildings. They were and are a statement.

 
At 1:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As an architectural designer, I agree with rebuilding the towers as they were but safer. We need to show the world that our symbols of power and freedom still stand tall and will not change no matter what our enemies might try. Trump is right.

 
At 1:16 PM, Anonymous ZD said...

Thank God somebody finally stood up and declared what we all really think. We are the greatest nation on earth. We should not have to hide the offices of our financial center in corporate parks in Brooklyn and New Jersey. Let Manhattan reclaim its former glory as the beating heart of the worlds economy. Rebuild office space, not museums, theatres and vapid memorials. Rebuild the towers!

Thanks Mr. Trump.

 
At 1:18 PM, Anonymous bill said...

The Donald is a self-important blow hard with the moral fiber of a chimpanzee but guess what? He's right-on this time. Even though 'his' plan as I understand it would result in shorter-than-original buildings, the design makes a "in-your-face" statement - bold and proud, whereas the 'Freedom tower' says, "can't we just be friends?"

 
At 1:21 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The buildings were a symbol of every thing that is arrogant, ugly and oppressive about NYC and America. That is why they were a good target. The building themselves were a form of terrorism, and for that reason, I am glad they are gone. You are perpetuating terrorism and therefore a terrorist yourself if you want these buildings built again.

Lets show our superior strength, power and creativity by coming up with something that celebrates all of humanity rather than denigrates human comfort and happiness as the current and past designs do. America is the greatest country in the world and New York is the greatest city in the world because we adapt to change, are open to new people and ideas and are an accepting culture. Don’t destroy what is great about NYC and America through the many attitudes posted on this blog.

 
At 1:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about designs for a memorial Donald? The reality is no one would rent space in the rebuilt towers.

 
At 1:26 PM, Anonymous Brian said...

We need to move forward. You never move forward without change. We're acting like the terrorists had an issue with the design. They couldve chosen to crash into the Empire State building if they had an issue with Art Deco! They chose to target a symbol of the financial center, not a symbol of architecture. We'd be failing if we made it a hotel, museum and *gasp* gift shop... all to increase tourism.

 
At 1:27 PM, Anonymous Qba73 said...

well speaking as a new yorker and someone who lost their best friend in the attacks (Sean Tallon of Ladder 10) I hope they replace the towers with tower-S (emphasis on the plural). i was there on 9/11 (for a meeting @ 130 liberty deutsche bank) and saw sean right before he went up (he worked right across the street, thats where ladder 10 was) last words i said to him were "i'm Buying tonight" i never saw him again. Rebuilding the towers not only show the haters out there in the world that we can take the hit and come right back, no way will it keep us down or force us to live scared in our own city.

i would even live with the freedom tower if they built 2 of them and fleshed them up to the top. Though personally i like trumps revised towers better, more fitting and plain just feels right as a new yorker myself.

The original towers love them or hate them were a part of NY and defined our skyline a trademark in every letter of the word. to replace it with a skeleton riddled building is appauling, why dont you just post a sign on the side of the building saying that "yes we are scared to building anything higher than the status-quo" if you think about it that is truly a shame.

There is no reason not to rebuild the towers so long as you dont eclipse the memory of the victims and original towers. as far as being scared to work in a tall building, there will not be another air attack, pre 9/11 we were blinded and passive and frankly did not fathom a tactic as that, however now we are hardened to reality and are full aware of any such attempt. you so much as sit the wrong way on a plan now and their landing it, not to mention the fact that if a plane so much as deviates the slightest from course it'll have 2 fighters right next to it to say hi. If the nutjobs are planning another attack, believe you me that it will be bigger than a building attack. thats why security is of the most importance and that should be the focus nationwide.

Pataki and Bloomberg are pure politicians and i wonder who's pockets they have their hands in because its plan to see they do not listen to the people of NY.

As far as pataki's national hopes, he will never be president so he should stop kidding himself.

 
At 1:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Critics once hated the Eiffel Tower, but most modern Parisians wouldn't trade it for anything. NY needs to rebuild those towers to their former glory. Never underestimate the power of a symbolic gesture; Symbolism is at the core of religion, politics and culture because symbols have the power to rouse hearts and minds. A restored Twin Towers would be much more impactful than any dubiously "forward thinking" statement made by the ill-conceived Freedom Tower. The Twin Towers may not have been beautiful but they represented America, which is precisely why they were attacked in the first place.

 
At 1:30 PM, Anonymous Jeff said...

What I'd like to know is if Mr.
Trump is willing to put his money where his mouth is: would he be
willing to fund a portion of the cost
of the new Twin Towers?

 
At 1:33 PM, Anonymous Andy said...

I've been waiting for someone with clout to finally stand up as say, "Pull your head out, stand up straight and put'em right back up where they belong. Go Donald!!!!!!

 
At 1:37 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just curious, does anyone who posted happen to work in a totally exposed high rise in manhattan?

At least half of the tallest building in downtown jersey city remains empty (the completely exposed building on the tip of the downtown area).

Would you be happy to have your husband wife or child working at the top of reconstructed world trade towers, or should the top 40 floors remain vacant?

 
At 1:39 PM, Anonymous Randy in Boston said...

It is wonderful that a materially potent person as Trump can in the US speak his mind , and support his causes , even against the powers that be ordained of God , and not be cast into prison on some " trumped " up charges as is the case in Russia : like it or not , the wealthy of this nation have often defined her most outstanding public projects : it is absolutely not " terrorism " to support the towers , the towers represented the ecumenical , whole world , view of American enthusiasm and vision : that the US is willing to be a city on a hill to all the world of the power of individual initiative in a free society , free from the interference of criminality and officialdom - let the towers rise again , sparkle again even higher , and yes if you build it , they shall surely come .......

 
At 1:45 PM, Anonymous Qba73 said...

I worked in WTC for 2 years on the 81st floor, and would do so again without hesitation, if you are gonna spend your life saying "what if they attack again, what if something happens", then you should close your doors and put alumium foil on your windows and live in under a rock, and maybe nothing will happen to you. there are so many what if's in life, would you let it dictate your life...i mean what if your hit by a car crossing a street.

I lost my best friend in the attacks and i feel there is no better tribute than not let him have died in vain and rebuild the towers.

As far as office space silverstein already committed to replacing the 10 millions square feet of office space, however what shape it will take still remains to be seen.

 
At 1:49 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Donald Duck is a loser. First he need to fix his hair then talk about towers. They ain't trump towers to built as if he wants.

 
At 1:52 PM, Anonymous Ken Q said...

Rebuild the old towers!....just put two bridges connecting them !

 
At 1:53 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Igor is absolutely right - Lets rebuild then but this time - lets make them taller!!!

 
At 1:56 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

YES We need to rebuild the world trade center site with new twin towers. When we rebuild these great buildings these building will FOREVER B the best buildings in the world even if oter towers in the world are taller then the twin towers that hopfully get rebuilt because why and what is was built for and Donald Trump is 100% right on what he is doing and i hope more ppl will b listing to him and we need to forget the mayor of new york and govonor patcaki i dont even know why they dont want this 2 happen and want a freedom tower that is a piece of crap it would just b a disaster for many years to come is that piece of crap "Freedom Tower" is built.

 
At 2:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Totally agree,I would love to see the towers rebuilt. I trust Trump the builder. He will do it in no time and three times cheaper. Elena

 
At 2:02 PM, Anonymous Matt said...

I've had about enough of people saying if we don't do so and so, the terrorists win. It's such a cliche. And how many times did Trump manage to mention the Apprentice at his press conference? Nice coincidence that it just happened to take place the day before the season finale. I especially get a kick out of Trump lambasting the aesthetics of the Freedom Tower design, when the buildings he puts up are routinely derided for their appearance.

 
At 2:12 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was thrilled when I saw how many posts there were supporting the idea of rebuilding the twin towers. I thought I was one of a small minority of people with that opinion.
I agree with Trump; the proposed design is awful. The towers may not have had the elegance of the Chrysler building or Empire State but they did represent a modern architecture style and they still stood tall and proud against the various styles of architecture in NY. The beauty is in the contrasts of style and form. My first thought was that the towers should be rebuilt, using knowledge of safety and design that we have learned from this tragedy. That idea has never changed.
So much money has been wasted in this country and outside this country, that we could have replaced the towers many times over. I am not a New Yorker but I am an American. I have felt much closer to New York and its people since the tragedy.I have an immense respect for the heros and I feel the loss even though I did not lose anyone personally in the attack. I flle that a fitting memorial would be to show our strength and show that we are not beaten here. Put the towers back to stand tall and proud as they did befor.

 
At 2:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, most of the posting here sounds like an emotional school yard brawl.

The concern seems to be about whether or not we're tough and 'we'll show them' and 'build it the same, that'll show 'em.'

What exactly will it show them? Will it show them that we live in the past? Or that we're incapable of learning from the curve balls that life throws at us?

I'm saddened by comments like 'The US can and will not be suceptible to change.' and we're not 'sturdy like the folks who won WWII'. Guess what? We don't live in the 1940s. The world is a completely different place now than it was then. And if we don't accept and embrace change as a country (in general, not just a building), the US will fade away and die.

Strength and power come from a willingness to change, not a firm resolve not to.

We need to stop being so petty and emotional about the whole thing. If you've posted before, go back and read your own posts. Many reflect an immature and emotionally charged attitude toward the situation. I invite you to take a step back and look at it from a detached, rational point of view.
One poster commented that NYC wouldn't fill the space. If that is true, it would be silly to replace the towers. Would replacing them in that instance be an 'in your face' to terrorists? Doubtful. However we'd have spent a ton of money that could have been used for far more useful things. In that case, who really got the upper hand?

If we cannot truthfully ask ourselves 'what can we learn from this situation' and react accordingly, how will we ever succeed?

Prime real estate is now available in NYC. Set aside a portion for a memorial so we'll remember the lesson. Prove our strength and resolve by NOT worrying what the terrorists will think, but by looking at the available space, the city's current needs and building (or not) a structure that suits those needs.

Reacting with emotional indifference and taking advantage of the oppurtunity at hand is what will really prove that America is strong.

 
At 2:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Trump is a rich, booring and bald buffoon. His taste is in his a... The lst proposed design I saw was interesting, the old buildings were big, ugly boxes,why repeat them to satisy TYrump's ego> My bet is before its all done he will want them mnamed the DonaldTrump World Trade Center.

 
At 2:52 PM, Blogger Lova said...

Freedom Tower is a monument to Fear. The actual building is only 70 stories, with a ghost building of lattice above. That's disgusting. Look at the pics- the actual occupiable building is the same hieght as the others next to it. Symbolically, it says we are afraid to stand tall, stand out, risk our necks. And the ghost tower above? A tombstone. Might as well put 3,000 metal angels in it, turning in the wind. The Freedom Tower proposal was concieved too close to the event, when emotions were high. Did all the brave people of NYC die in 9/11? Stand proud, stand tall. Rebuild the Twin Towers.

 
At 2:53 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The WTC II designs at makenynyagain.com are really beautiful. Thanks for the link. All the majesty of the first Twin Towers, but with a fresh, modern refit. The whole way it's laid out, with the accompanying smaller buildings and the way the original footprints are preserved, man, I'm highly impressed. And bravo to the Donald for getting this buzz going. I really hope NYers push for this and make their voices heard.

 
At 3:01 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Go Donald, Go.

 
At 3:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

...I know I am glad they rebuilt the White House after the War of 1812, and didn't make it into "Freedom Park".

Actually, Scott, that's not quite correct. The White House has been significantly changed over time, adding the top (private) floor, and the east and west wings.

Even more drastically, the US Capitol was never rebuilt the same after the war of 1812. It went under significant expansion and rebuilding through to the Civil War, with the large "Wedding Cake" rotunda being nothing like the simple Jeffersonian one originally built.

Rebuilding the World Trade Center towers verbatim, although a statement of defiance, would really show a lack of vision. We have, against our will, the opportunity to rethink the site. Why not come up with something more funcional, safer, more imposing, and more beautiful?

-TP

 
At 3:06 PM, Anonymous DesBrosses said...

The point is not that the terrorists themselves will sit in their caves watching satellite TV, see the towers reappear and say "oh heck we lost." With any luck, Osama and everyone else involved will be a charred corpse or a guest of Gitmo by the time ground is broken. And nobody cares what they think anyway.

Nope, the point is that if we rebuild the Towers, then 9/11 changes from an eternal scar to an eventual tour-guide factoid, and that's the ULTIMATE defeat for terrorism.

Plus, you may think they were ugly, but omigod, if they rose again, NY'ers would weep tears of joy and remembrance.

Is this a NY issue? You bet your bippy it is, so if you don't like it, go log onto Peoria.com or something and blog there. This is a really big deal in city life.

As for renting the space, this was also a problem in the 70's, and the Feds and NY State pitched in to become major tenants. They could do it again. Downtown won't stay overcapacity forever.

 
At 3:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have thought since the day those towers came down that we needed to rebuild them virtually identical to what they were prior to September 11th. I also agree with Trump that to do otherwise is giving in to the terrorists - they would have effectively won because they have made us scared to the point where we alter our lives because of the ghost of their presence.

To those that talk about honoring the families of those lost, why can't the new buildings be commemorated in their honor?

While in the here and now a memorial park sounds like a quaint idea, how quaint is it going to be in 60-80 years when all of the immediate kin of the deceased are deceased as well, and a park commemorating people that are long since gone and that nobody knows is taking up some of the best real estate in that city? From a pragmatic standpoint, it's a bad idea.

If you go back through cinema history since the trade center towers were built, most movies set in NY show the skyline with the towers as the focal point. Together they made up one of the most significant and recognizable man made landmarks in the nation.

Hindsight being 20/20, we can now rebuild those towers with a better means of egress, and they can be built to withstand the kind of catastrophic trauma that brought down the first two.

In my opinion, rebuilding the towers to look as they did before that fateful day would be one of the best ways to honor those that died. This would show the world that we are not going to cower before the ghostly threat of terrorism and those that died wouldn't have died in vain. But this is just my opinion.

 
At 3:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

let the towers rise again! like many new yorkers, and people around the world i suspect, i thought from the moment i heard that they were gone that the towers should be and would be rebuilt as soon as possible. it would be fantastic to see them on our skyline again.

 
At 3:17 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

When we rebuild these great buildings these buildings will FOREVER Be the best buildings in the world even if other towers in the world are taller then the twin towers it will be the most POWERFUL symbol of what it stands for!

 
At 3:19 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To rebuild the twin towers with one extra floor is a rather weak move. If you want the same look, double the height already.

However, by building something new, more energy efficient, with a contemporary design and materials palette and that includes better solutions for MTA, mourners and tenants will more accurately embody American innovation and forward thinking.

One comment suggested America is not susceptible to change. What?!?! America is the greatest manifestation of constant change. If you want yesterday, don't wake up today.

The world changed that day. It is an injustice to future generations to try to erase history with our built environment.

 
At 3:25 PM, Blogger Nektarios said...

I disagree with the author. When the Twin Towers went down, it devastated the whole world. Rebuilding them back will show that New York has been resurrected, is stronger than ever, and remains defiant to the terrorists. We need stronger buildings, better build built buildings--not buildings made from glass and skeleton which seem weaker and thinner than the twin towers that went down. Why don't people see this?

I admire Mr. Trump for his vision, and I hope it becomes a reality.

 
At 3:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is no technology on the planet, nor will there ever be, to make a building airplane resistant. What is this idea that we can make them stronger and safer? What about designing for the everyday situation, rather than the extreme situation. Make the buildings light and open for the people inside. The old towers sucked to be in. Make the new ones significantly better.

 
At 3:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is all about comfort, we want everything to be okay, our will strong and children safe. Make photos of New York's skyline in 2000 not remind of us all of bad events, put things back the way they were. How afraid of the future and death are we?

 
At 3:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was in the South Tower on 9/11. Just who is going to occupy these towers? Should you make me and other survivors(some from the 93 bombing) go back to our same desks? You cannot imagine what it would be like for those working there. I cannot comprehend such a stupid consideration. Two empty towers is just as riduculous.

 
At 3:52 PM, Anonymous Howard said...

What irony for igor to sugest that rebuilding the old towers would "show terrorists all over the world that NY & The US can and will not be succeptible to change." But of course it's our god given right to forcefully impose change all over the world. Imagine if we all learned to understand other cultures vs. impose our own dogma....

 
At 4:29 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah Donald!!! This is what us new yorkers have been saying since sept 12. Take your freedom fries and freedom towers and shuv it!

 
At 4:38 PM, Anonymous Jon said...

I don't think it has anything to do with what the 'terrorist' think. They really don't care what we put there. What DOES matter is what WE think. How do we want to look back? What symbol do we want to see? Do we want to look at it and be mournful and see a tombstone, or do we want to see a symbol of defiance to terror?

Me personally? I want something there that defies terror, not because I think it effect terrorist, but because it will effect us. When people look up, I don't want them to be sad or scared, I want them to feel pride in the American spirit.

I don't care what goes up, so long as it is a symbol people look on with sadness and fear. I want people to lok up at the NY sky line and believe that they can do anything they set their mind to... because they can.

 
At 5:30 PM, Blogger BULLSEYE said...

If your Ford gets wrecked you don't put Chevy parts on it, you repair it back to original specs. I agree, rebuild the towers back to the original design using state of the art technology.

 
At 7:58 PM, Anonymous Louis Epstein said...

I have been fighting for the full-scale reconstruction of the WTC literally since the day the Towers fell.I have an email list that began September 15th 2001 and an organization,the World Trade Center Restoration Movement (I am linking to our webpage with this comment).From the beginning officialdom has been determined to ignore us.I have pressed the countless reasons why nothing but towers retreating not one inch from the dimensions of those that were destroyed honors the dead.
The officials,faced with a majority in favor of doing this,but unwilling to do it,have tried to convince us that we have already lost,because if they can not do this they can not possibly defeat us.I was at Trump's press conference and hope that his backing makes the difference we need.I hope that the various "Anonymous" people will sign up for our email list and make us even stronger.

 
At 8:29 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

YAWN. Trump is a retard. I'm surprised our chimp of a president doesn't support such an unimaginative idea as this. Even more shocking is the legion of lemmings here who dutifully nod their heads in collective idiocy to this lame plan. Screw the towers. Lets build a parking lot on the grounds or a mall. Time to start anew people. Bygones.

 
At 11:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

IF PPL WANT A NICE PARK OR QUITE AREA WHY U PPL LIVE IN NYC IN THE FIRST PLACE JUST ASKIN?

 
At 11:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

and just for the ppl who do now sayin all just the ppl who propose such a thing

 
At 8:36 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was in WTC when the planes hit and no matter what people say about them they were big and imposing and represented NYC and the US in general, THAT is why they were targeted in the first place.
The reason the WTC towers were built the height they were was to make them the tallest in the world (albeit just until the Sears tower was completed.)
I say lets build 2 towers that are the tallest in the world again in NYC.
And to those that say it would be a white elephant for years, SO WHAT, lets put one of the billions that we are pumping into Iraq into a fund to cover the losses until the building fills up again(as we all know it will)
If you want to make it realy safe, take floors 145-150 and put a mini military base there loaded with Stinger missiles that could protect the entire NY Metro area

 
At 1:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah and lets paint two big target bullseyes on both buildings so we can help the terrorists ram them even easier next time around. This idea is stupid!

 
At 10:48 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the WTC Towers cannot be built on the 16 acres then they should be built elsewhere in the financial district.

 
At 12:21 AM, Anonymous DesBrosses said...

Anonymous said...
Yeah and lets paint two big target bullseyes on both buildings so we can help the terrorists ram them even easier next time around. This idea is stupid!


In the first place, the 9/11 planes managed to hit each Tower squarely without any helpful paint jobs. Buildings this size are hard to miss.

Secondly, if terrorists wanted to target a pair of rebuilt Towers, they could just as easily target whatever spleef-skeleton Freedom Tower is currently planned. So unless you favor a hardened underground bunker on the otherwise empty site, this problem doesn't go away.

Finally, the other changes that have been made to the air safety system in this country makes it considerably less likely that an airliner could be used as a weapon as happened on 9/11.

 
At 3:15 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

HORRAY FOR DONALD TRUMP!!! No matter what you may think of him personally, his plan to rebuild the towers is correct. Fire Pataki, LMDC etc. They dont see the real issue at stake here ... the old WTC is an emotional
anchor for NYC. No other building can fill the void ... certainly not the cowardly
"Freedom" Tower with its meager 70 floors.

If someone you loved died, wouldn't you want
to see them again? I miss the Twin Towers.
NYC isn't the same without them.

 

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